In response to one of my blog posts on “Approaching and Seducing Women with Game Dynamics” a commenter had this question which was enthusiastically echoed by another reader. Here are the comments:

Owen said: I have a question about the last article. Considering game dynamics (best way of getting laid and connecting with women) it’s not better to go direct and clarify your intention? I mean the rest is all done by passive acceptance of the frame or I am wrong?

Jim said:

Great question! Doesn’t going Direct make it clear to her that you are a Player? Anxiously awaiting CJ’s response

To clarify the Game Dynamics are:

All Games are Based on Agreement.

Game Dynamic 1: You and her must agree you are both Players in a Game you both want to play.

Game Dynamic 2: You and her must agree you are both playing the same Game TOGETHER.

Game Dynamic 3: You must show her that you VALUE her Game Goal.

Game Dynamic 4: You must demonstrate that you can carry her through the Obstacles… first by handling them in her mind, then in the immediate environment then over time.

So, you have to get agreement on all 4 Dynamics and KEEP agreement until you can actually achieve the Game Goal.

I have nothing against Direct Approach to meet women… Direct works. I’ve used it and I’ve seen others use it for great effect. However, I don’t think it is an optimum move. You want your opening move to be the one that gives you the highest probabilities of getting to the next stage.

In some cases, direct has such an effect that it blows past all the stages. If you couple this with the fact that women DO love sex and are sometimes just ready to go at it then you get some success.

The problem is I think it lowers your overall probabilities.

Let’s look at it from a Game Dynamics viewpoint with my last lay report.

Here was a girl who was obviously down… But… she was there with her ex-boyfriend (who still wanted her) and a ‘big brother’-type guy friend. (Now don’t we know that almost all ‘big brother’ types are basically guys who still want to have sex with her but don’t know how to make it happen?)

She and I had exchanged hard eye contact and smiles several times. Would’ve been fairly easy for me to Direct Approach. But, it would’ve blown out Dynamic 4 and ended my chances. Now, I don’t agree with Mys’ idea that everyone else in the set is an Obstacle but in this case they were definitely Obstacles because we had Counter Intentions. An Obstacle is defined by Counter Intentions not by simply NOT being your Target. I’ve had non-Targets be ALLIES in set.

I’ve also had circumstances where I have opened 2sets and discovered the Target was out with her boyfriend’s sister. How would Direct fare, then? Of course, you could decide, “Well, it would save me time!” Perhaps, if you’re not good or you have no intention of getting Supremely Good at Game. But, history shows that a Boyfriend is often a trifling matter!

The Game Strategist opts for Low Investment Openers, indirect approaches to meet women or the social type openers like, “How’s everyone tonight?” and discovering what’s deal. He picks his optimum move at every step… and she loves him for it.

So, my conclusion is: Sure you might be passing Dynamic 1 with flying colors by going Direct but could be destroying any chance/opportunity of getting agreement on any other Dynamic by destroying Dynamic 4. You COULD also be violating a few Game Rules (like “Protect Social Reputation”) depending on what Game is her natural preference.

Captain Jack

P.S. The Game Dynamics audio has been recorded and is being delivered along with all the past “Master Strategies Monthly” audios. You can read more at “How to Pick Up Girls Using The Game Dynamics”

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I started off Friday. Rolled out solo and ran into Vector and some D-Lair guys. Chatted with Vector a little bit and they mentioned they were going to a diff place across the street.

Really wasn’t much out. The only 2 girls I wanted were already invested with guys and I pussed out by not opening this tall thin Latina, easily the hottest girl there and probably one of the hottest anywhere she goes.

About 1:15 or so I start chatting with this blonde nurse, we start dancing and then sit at a table. I could tell by the conversation this was essentially a done deal so I just chilled and did some physical escalation. (When you are clear on all the dynamics you don’t do anything because it can make her think you don’t get what is going on, then you’ll probably have to go back and clear them.)

Her (hideously fat) friend was having a girl conference with her trying to decide if she was going to bang the cop she was with… They were pretty blatant about it and talked about it right in front of me… I told the nurse something like, “She should. Sex is fun and really enjoyable. Two adults should be able to do whatever they want without worrying about it. I’m not judgemental blah, blah, blah…” but that is the only frame I set. I don’t think I needed to do it but since it was out there I figured I might as well explicitly handle it.

At the end of the night she blatantly asked, “Are you going to take me home with you?”

Awesome body which she attributed to doing yoga several times a week. (All girls should have to do yoga.)

I drove her back to her car in the morning and she took my number and texted “call me sometime.”

One set, one lay.

I sleep most of the day Saturday and wake up happy as shit that I don’t have a hangover.

I want to check out a bar in Fort Worth that I haven’t been to in years but it doesn’t get started until 11:00-11:30… I find if I get out that late that I have a little trouble getting situated mentally as I honestly can’t stand bars/clubs/alcohol/smoke/crowds… so I go to my local place with plans to leave at 11:00 for the other place.

Again, not really that many hot girls. There are 2 in a 3set (2 hot girls and one blonde elephant). The hot girls are doing lesbianish dance moves all over each other and I’m liking it because it is them basically broadcasting to all the dudes that they want penis.

Problem #1: They are at a table (hate opening seated sets).

Problem #2: They are at the OTHER side of the bar against the wall. Which means I would have to walk across the bar to open them.

At that point I would have to go direct.

Damnit.

I mentally decide I will do it right before I leave for the other bar if one of the hot ones doesn’t break away and head to the bar. (That’s actually a sign I look for… some girls have realized that breaking away from their gfs for a bit will get them opened so they do it. Watch for it. I promise you’ll start to see it happen. Open them, it puts the odds a bit more in your favor).

Right about that time the Blonde elephant rumbles across the dance floor and she’s heading towards me…

oh, shit.

I’m going to have to deftly reject a fatty without pissing her off and ruining my chances of having sex with one of her human female acquaintances.

The elephant’s momentum grinds to a stop a few feet short of me… She wasn’t coming for me! She came for the blond dude with a little boy haircut and his friend! She takes them to the table to talk to the two hotties.

I find this interesting because the 2 guys are presented with a golden opportunity and it’s so painfully obvious they have no fucking clue what to do.

The girls bail leaving the dudes at their table about 15 minutes later.

Now there are NO hot girls in the venue and I’m getting ready to leave when I spy a Vanessa Hudgens look alike… sitting with 3 dudes.

Oh well, I stare at her and catch her eye. She smiles and stares back.

Hmm… this could be interesting.

I move to my bird’s nest spot putting me right in front of her.

We keep exchanging glances for the next 20 minutes or so. I’m debating what to do… I want her but there will be dozens of girls I want at the venue I’m going to instead of just one in the worst possible situ at this one… decisions, decisions.

She makes it easy on me by walking right past me.

Ninjitsu ensues and about one minute later I am sitting at her table with her.

The guys are pissed.

They are talking shit about me and I act like I don’t hear and keep talking to her. (I am on her left hand side and they are across and to her right).

Long story short, one was her ex bf who wants her back and the other acts like he is her big brother. In between me talking to her they are arguing about my presence.

This makes me want to win even more. What better revenge?

She says that she has to leave and gets my number, kissing me real quick and going with them.

I text her at 2:30 am and she arrives at 3:10am.

One set, one lay.

—–

Early Sunday night I am thinking I am too tired to go out. My stomach muscles hurt. But, it’s a holiday night and it always seems like those end up being crazy!

I talk to Sinn on the phone about the past two nights. He says I need to try to keep the streak going. I decide he’s right and start getting myself mentally geared towards going out.

I see AceOfHeartSS at the bar and I like to see him out because he actually opens. After coming back from the rest room he is talking to a cute tall blonde.

About that time, I open 2 hot asians. I can’t even remember what I said something like “It’s a good thing you are hot because you are tiny.” or something silly like that.

They are immediately all over me. I pick the short one up and she screams and hugs me tight.

I tease them a few times and have a normal conversation for a bit and towards closing time I walk them to the car and get in.

Things are going well so I hatch a plan: Bang Two Hot Asians.

Problem #1: I’m drunk. The 2 nights of drinking caught up with me this night and I only seemd to have half my normal tolerance. This impairs my almost flawless strategic abilities.

Whenever I escalate with one the other interrupts. At one point the shorter asian is straddling me in the back seat giving me a lap dance while I am trying to rub the other’s boobies through her shirt.

I’m thinking… holy shit, this is going to be a cold approach SNL 3some.

Not so fast. (God has other plans.)

They actually start talking about who is going to fuck me. Right in front of me.

I’m sitting in the back seat now. They are in the front.

Asian #1: “I want you to…”

Asian #2: “No, you should go home with him. I can tell you like him.”

Asian #1: “You saw him first.”

I’m sitting back there dumbfounded. I can’t speak. Perhaps they thought they were speaking Asianish instead of English… It’s really strange to have people talking about you like you are not there and this is the 2nd night in a row it has happened to me.

I want to say, “No problemo laides… I’ll pound the shit out of both of you!”

Instead I say, “Let’s go to my hot tub.”

I am confused.

They are confused.

They can’t work out who gets to fuck me and like a dumbass I should’ve just decided. That’s all I would’ve had to do…

Asian #1 says, ‘I have to drop her off at home.’

what would the proper thing for me to do? “Ok, cool, gimme your number.” Then what? Then I wait 15 minutes and text her to come see me.

Simple, right? Not to a confused drunk man. To a confused drunk man that is like Calculus to a retard.

So, I get nothing.

Damnit.

Captain Jack

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Hmm I think this is boiling down to a bit of semantics and how you exactly define it. If I go to a bar with my hot female friends I get tons more AIs that if I go with my male buddies. Sure, if I don’t do anything about it then the AIs will die down over time (except for new girls entering the venue). But either way simply having hot girls with you gets you more interest than not, therefore scientifically proving that social proof is a contributory factor!

It won’t get you laid (you’ll still have to open… duh!) but is sure as dandy helps!

– comment by charliereay on “Opening and Social Proof Versus Player in the Game” post

I am surprised I didn’t get more of these types of comments. When I published the post I expected to get a lot more of these types than the all out positive ones.

Let me start by saying this… I’m not saying Social Proof isn’t “right” or is “wrong.” What I’m saying is that it is INCOMPLETE. I’m pointing out that it leaves A LOT more unexplained than explained.

I discussed quite a few things that it left unexplained in the last post. There is a higher level dynamic at work when attracting, approaching and seducing women that better explains what is going on and that is the player in the game concept.

One GREAT way to know if you have found a better organizing principle is if you experience a surge in motivation to act or a desire to do things differently. Two or 3 commenters noted they felt more pumped to approach women. The reason is because when they adopted this idea it caused a spontaneous release of competing and inefficient ideas leaving more energy and attention available for action. And/or it stabilized a lot of floating thoughts thus lessening confusion (and confusion causes fear and apprehension.)

I’ll show you how it better explains common field phenomena and then I’ll show you how it ALSO explains Sexual Framing.

Social Proof

• Covered in previous post.

Peacocking

• Someone who is peacocking but not opening is a tool. Why? Socially we know, and women know, that Peacocking is something you do when you are Playing the Game. A dude who is Peacocked and not opening is socially weird. Likewise, people with low game awareness call scantily clad women in the club “sluts” not realizing this is what women do to invite the real Players to open. Saying that women open guys who are peacocked because they realize the men are Players in the Game is a leap… but, it is a very small leap. It might be better explained by saying that women can use it to show everyone THEY are playing the Game thus, getting her opened more without making it too obvious.

Pre-Selection

• I covered this a bit in the last post. Pre-Selection is a VERY valid and observable phenom. But, again this only applies to Players in the Game. When they realize you aren’t in the Game their awareness is no longer on you and all invitations and attention shift to find Players.

Jealousy Threads

• Again, you have to be a Player in the Game and have her attracted for a Jealousy Thread to exist. J-Threads are incredibly powerful. They are so powerful BECAUSE the Game has a limited time span (a Game Obstacle) and a limited number of Players (another Game Obstacle). Her desire to win compels her to focus more energy on a proven quantity as does her desire to IMPROVE against competition. (The competition is other females, not the males.) Add to that the fact that she WAS on her way to Winning and you’ve got a deep sense of loss and self-doubt creeping in. The idea that other females could be BETTER was theoretical, now it is all too real. She will do ALMOST anything to beat the competitor.

Disqualifiers

• There are two valid players. It looks like they are headed to winning… but, now one of them seems to be questioning whether or not the other is a Player… the chances of winning drop causing fear and increasing desire to get back in the Game.

DHVs

• I’m skeptical about the real use of DHVs EXCEPT when you are talking to a girl to whom that shit is important AND her logical mind is engaged. She can use that stuff to talk herself into liking you or giving you more time/chances.

Ok, “Player in the Game” refines those a bit without colliding and give us a better understanding.

We KNOW Mystery Method works AND it works very very well for what it is designed to do… Those items listed above are given as the reason MM works… But, what then explains the massive success of Sexual Framing which isn’t built on any of those?

Sexual Framing doesn’t use Jealousy-Threads, Pre-Selection, Demonstrations of Higher Value (DHVs), Merging, Pawning or Social Proof except as a consequence when a set unravels and you have to open a new one.

In fact, Sexual Framing VIOLATES many common MM principles.

Can the “Player in the Game” concept describe it? Yes! Wonderfully!

A Game is made up of Spectators, Players, Winners, Obstacles and Goals.

I’m not using Obstacles in the MM definition here. Although her friends COULD be Obstacles they aren’t by default. They are only Obstacles when they don’t KNOW that you and her friend have AGREED to play the game together.

Approaching, attracting and seducing women is often called The Game.

All Games are Based on Agreement.

Game Dynamic 1: You and her must agree you are both Players. Naturally, this is you making a smooth open, hooking the set and her entering communication with you. If you can’t get agreement on this you don’t have a Game.

Game Dynamic 2: You and her must agree you are both playing the same Game TOGETHER. By opening Sexual Frames you are telling her what Game you are playing. As she continues talking with you and playing along she is AGREEING that this is a male-female conversation with a sexual dynamic. If you can’t get agreement on this you don’t have a Game.

Game Dynamic 3: You must show her that you VALUE her Game Goal. By being non-judgmental and telling her you LOVE how sexy she is, etc you are showing her this. If you can’t get agreement on this you don’t have a Game.

Game Dynamic 4: You must demonstrate that you can carry her through the Obstacles… first by handling them in her mind, then in the immediate environment then over time. This can be done explicitly by getting the group to like you… getting her so into you that she does it and/or using an Inoculation Routine like I mentioned in “FR: College Girls!” Then, by baby-stepping her along ever so gently she’ll know/feel that she is having all the good feelings and none of the bad (like she usually does), she gets even more comfortable and puts more trust in you. If you can’t get agreement on this you don’t have a Game.

Also, you can look for her to show you the same! For example, when I ask her “You’re not the jealous type… are you?” and then tell a story about how I was “hanging out” (code for fucking) a girl and she got jealous and I didn’t approve I’m beginning to define what Game we are playing and putting in question her agreement on Dynamic 2. She has to alleviate my concerns by agreeing with me that jealousy sucks.

The Most Evil of All Evils

What about LMR? Can this even shed some light on LMR?

Yes!

LMR is primarily an unclear agreement about whether or not you are both playing the same Game (unclear Game Dynamic 2). It can also be that you haven’t shown her that you value her Game Goal (unclear on Game Dynamic 3).

If she is playing “Potential GF Game” and you are playing ONS game and she THINKS you are playing “Potential GF Game” but isn’t exactly sure due to mixed communication signals then… BAM! LMR. You’d have to have told her that your game works like this “Primarily Sexual and then possible grow into GF over time” in order to avoid it.

On the flipside, If you WERE playing to get a GF and she was CONVINCED you were…

…and she WAS playing that Game too…

…and she believed that giving it up wouldn’t destroy that Game (clear on Game Dynamic 3), then…

…she’d have no issue having sex with you the first night.

This is why so many of the PUAs trained in “social” forms of Pick-up have such a hard time getting laid.

They broadcast “social, fun guy — potential fun bf” on Game Dynamic 2 and then wonder why it takes forever to lay her… furthermore, they never make it clear that they VALUE sexuality so she has to be double certain it won’t fuck up that Game before having sex. They have methodically built tons of agreement on a DIFFERENT GAME (fun, cool, social bf) and wonder why the Game Goal of a DIFFERENT GAME isn’t happening.

Those Silly PUAs.

Captain Jack

P.S. Knowing what you know now about The Game Dynamics you should be able to pinpoint on WHICH Dynamic any busted set failed on. All “no-gos” are failure on Game Dynamic 1. All sets that unravel come from failures on Game Dynamic 4, etc. What would you do with said information? Why you’d examine your Game Plan and look for deficiencies in your common routines/stacks/ideas/beliefs in that area, shore it up, set up experiments/solutions and get your ass back in the Field!

P.P.S. Disqualifiers work because they threaten agreement on Game Dynamic 1. See that? If there isn’t agreement on all the Game Dynamics, there is NO GAME, thus no chance of winning. Jealousy Thread threatens Game Dynamic 2.

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I noticed the other day I was only marginally interesting to the hot bartenders and wait staff until I started talking to cougar and the milf.

Normally, I explain this as Social Proof. It’s one of the communities favorite theories. And, it seems to explain a lot. Cialdini popularized it and the definition is people will be more likely to do what they see other people doing.

What about in the case of a normal bootcamp when guys are opening, but getting blown out or failing to get attraction… they still get more AIs after opening than when they don’t open. And, in this case you’d expect them to get blown out so much the first few times that they’d be done for the night due to all the negative social proof. But, that doesn’t happen.

So, what’s going on?

Let’s examine this a bit further…

Have you ever looked at a woman and thought it looked “hard” to approach her and you weren’t sure if you wanted to risk it. Then, some chode went and opened her and she was extremely nice to him and everything went fine. Then, you said to yourself, “Holy shit… I could do better than that chode” and you walked over and opened?

Have you ever seen a hot girl with a chode and thought, “Damn… how the fuck did he get her? I’m 10x cooler than that guy” and if you had a smooth chance you’d have attempted to flirt?

Both of the above have happened to me and others many, many times. Here’s another related question:

Did you know that guys have been blown out after approaching women, gone back in later, and had it bust wide open?

What I’m going to say is that Social Proof doesn’t explain the warm responses you get from approaching women when you’ve been seen in set OR you merge sets with pawns…

I think it has to do with how she categorizes YOU in relation to the Game being played. She’s not keying off of the ACTUAL responses of the other women (that’d be pre-selection) as much as she’s keying off the realization that you are playing the Game.

See, women know that this is a Game. The Game is find an attractive mate to have sex with!

In any game there are Players and Spectators. If you are not talking to women, approaching women or already with women then you are a Spectator until proven otherwise. (She may HOPE that you are a Player and give you AIs to find out.)

Why do AIs increase when women see you open? Simply because they realize you are a Player and so are they so it’s an invitation from one Player to another Player to engage in the Game.

What about opening sets with a woman with you? First, it demonstrates you’re a Player in two ways, the opening and you are already with a girl. Second, much like you look at a dude and think you could do better than that guy, the girl looks at the girl and does the same… except girls seem to be much more aggressive in this area than the average community male. An Hb3 WILL try to unseat a 9 or 10… whereas most dudes who feel outclassed will shy away and ask if she has any friends or something.

You are most likely missing a lot of AIs. Assume any eye contact is an AI for the time being and you’ll get a lot of real world experience around the subject. Also, many afc/PUAs have trouble with making or keeping eye contact so practice holding eye contact if you haven’t done those types of drills. Especially if this is a weak point because it just won’t be tolerated in set. If this is a weak point for you literally stare girls down until you don’t feel any pressure to look away. A few days/nights of this is usually all you need.

You can make the assumption that if you see one AI you’ve probably missed 2 or 3.

Now, this snowballs. You open a set, girls notice, they start changing their body language and giving you AIs. They look in your direction more. Other girls pick up on this… you open more, new girls pick up on it plus the old girls. Snowball.

(If you’ve ever been in a club with a celebrity or sports star you’ll notice this on steroids magnified by one hundred. You can hardly keep a woman’s attention when there’s a big celeb in proximity.)

As you move around girls will shift body language towards you. You’ll get Proximity AIs from all girl sets, etc.

(In my eCoaching bootcamp I discuss Parading girls… it’s the fastest way to warm up the entire venue. I have a saying that if you can Parade 3 times in a night you will most likely get laid. It is magical.)

Can’t this be described by Pre-Selection?

Again, only partially. See, pre-selection means the women were visibly and intensely attracted to you and the other women noticed it. We have PLENTY of examples of guys who have a lot of hot female FRIENDS who couldn’t get laid if their life depended on it. What is going on here? Well, though they are surrounded by hot girls they never show new girls they meet that they are in the game. They never show her that they know her Goals and move her across the barriers/obstacles to the win.

Don’t get me wrong Pre-Selection DOES help. But, what I’m talking about is something even before and more basic. I’m talking about girls giving AIs and becoming warm just based on her/their analysis that you are playing the same Game they are. Pre-selection comes later… it is “He’s in the same Game AND he’s obviously good at it” (Parading, which I mentioned above, activates Pre-Selection especially when multiple girls are paraded together or close together in the same night.)

EVERYBODY in the game hates wasting time. Females don’t want an opportunistic Spectator to suck up their time so they usually reserve their AIs for proven Players. Girls also intuitively know that if she can get one guy to open her then a few others will get more courage and open. Thus, more Players and more opportunity for her to win.

What about Celebrities?

Let’s analyze this a bit… Why do women like Celebrities? I can think of a bunch of reasons.

1. Money? Money doesn’t hurt BUT, it can’t ONLY be money. Pro PUAs have many, many super rich guys come to us for help. Many super rich end up as sugar daddies for hotties and those situations aren’t usually exclusive.

2. Looks? Well, women don’t have the same physiological responses to looks as men do. Their acceptable range of looks is MUCH wider and is weak enough that we can totally ignore it. (Provided your grooming and style is good). Plus, many Celebrities are dog ugly.

3. Status? A strong contributor. Society has conditioned us to treat celebs better. Even dudes want to meet other celebrity dudes.

4. An Assumed Player in the Game. This conditioning of status begins the SNOWBALL we talked about earlier. When you get the multiple girls visibly interested, the society conditioning of treating celebs as special plus the idea of bragging rights and money, then you have a lot of factors working together. It is deduced, assumed, that they are prime Players in the Game… thus, the females play all out.

The Case of the Man with Social Proof but Not a Player in the Game.

Take a guy out with 3 women. One of them is his wife, the other two are her sexy girlfriends. He has a wedding band on. Does he get massive AIs? No. He might get a few at first… some women are screwy and like to try and others may not have noticed the ring but after about an hour or two in the venue he is essentially invisible to the other Players.

I noticed this when I was out with FBs/Girlfriends. I’d get a LOT of AIs at first and after a bit I was essentially invisible again. Sure I was with a hot girl (social proof idea) BUT it was pre-empted because the girls realized I wasn’t in the Game.

So, I put the idea of Social Proof on the backburner as something that, while valid, only partially described what was happening and opt instead for the fuller idea of Player in the Game. It better describes what actually occurs in the field. Spectators, Players, Winners, Obstacles and Goals.

This also helps to mesh Sexual Framing with some of the more standard MM structured approach. Though, I usually avoid the standard Peacocking, Pawning, Social Proof/DHV routines (ex. the routine where you show you with pics with hot girls, doing cool shit, hanging with cool people), with this idea they start to make sense together.

When I open and start Sexual Framing I’m demonstrating I’m a Player in the Game… that we are both playing the same Game, that I value her Game Goal (finding a guy who can make her feel sexy and sexual) and I’m willling to carry it home (so to speak! haa).

Since I’ve gotten good at opening one or two sets, hooking and staying in for the long haul the other girls notice it… if the set busts or unravels, many girls in the vicinity have noticed the deep sexual attraction between me and the other girl and have me pegged. Opening any girl who witnessed that makes my set go that much easier.

She isn’t looking for Value or Social Proof, she’s looking for the man in her near Vicinity who is the best Player in the Game.

If you understand this it will lessen your worry about people seeing a set go bad. It won’t matter, by opening you’ll show everyone else you’re in the game.

Captain Jack

P.S. You should also feel less pressure from others watching you open because Spectators don’t count! And,  Male Players are too busy playing to notice or care! In fact, if anything they’re probably thinking of allying with you to give both of you better chances to win.

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I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. Game Dynamics and “Player in the Game” = Elegance
2. Player States of Existence and Nested Games
3. Approaching Women Direct With The Game Dynamics

He posted an LR that shows a few cool things… I like how he showed appreciation of her sexual effect on him while they were on the couch, how he diffused the situation as they were in the cab and what he did when he got LMR. (By the way… he’s officially CJ Trained!!!!)

Sex and the Ninja LR: The Attack of Blondzilla

CJ

P.S. If you’ve used some of my tech to get Lays and post them on a forum or blog let me know! LRs help others… help your fellow man!

Force21 -

Crack the Back of Your Most Persistent Sticking Points, Go to A Level Never Seen Before...

 

I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. Force*21
2. Same Night Lays and Evaporating Clouds
3. Creation of Pick-up Ability Part 2

Anyway, I had a meeting from 7:00-10:00 and met Printer at the standard Thurs. night venue. I think that was the first time I’ve been there since last November.

Surprisingly, I didn’t recognize many people. There’s been a pretty good amount of turnover, which is good.

Printer does his thing of handing me double shots all night long, primarily because I do funny and stupid shit when I’m drunk. Case in point: We were in Scottsdale Az and about 20 minutes to close I walk over and start talking to a cute girl. She was interested and then abruptly left.

Printer said she looked real interested and asked me what happened. She abruptly left after I said, “Girl, gimme a sample of what you’re samplin’”

I guess she thought it was crude or something. I simply meant I wanted to bone her. (Girls are so complicated.)

I don’t do shit for the first 2 hours there except bullshit with Printer and one of his friends. Printer leaves with an FB and I feel like a tool just standing around so I start throwing out LIOs and even using Situationals to practice gauging initial interest and then picking up from where we are in agreement (of sexual interest) and moving from there forwards. (You can actually erase it by keeping your communication at a lesser level of male-female sexual dynamic… then it is a bit harder to get back because there is already an established pathway between you two to move downwards on the sexual dynamic.)

It is actually kind of fun to do this… I think in large part because the level of significance I’m placing on the interaction is much less.

I situationally open a blonde milf. She is wearing those kind of shirts that are elastic waist band on the top that sort of rest on top of the breast. The thin shirt material then drapes over the breats and tightens again at the waist. She isn’t wearing a bra and her breasts are big and bouyant. Her nips are hard.

(GIGANTOR begins to stir a bit.)

However, this is where Printer’s “get CJ drunk so he is amusing” kicks in full force as you will see.

CJ: Patron shots? You are bad, bad, bad.

MILF: I know, my last one, I’m driving.

CJ: Does she know that guy? (I’m referring to a guy in the set who is creepily all over her hot friend.)

MILF: They’re married. What’s your name?

CJ: Omigod, you have a little country accent!

MILF: Really? I’ve never been told that… I went to a catholic school and we were taught proper english.

CJ: Catholic girl! Really? You should leave right now… All the catholic girls I’ve known have been into bondage… tied up, handcuffs

MILF: What?

*** cue dumb drunkeness ***

CJ: Handcuffs, handcuffs, handcuffs. You like to be handcuffed. You know, handcuffs! (It was real loud so I thought she couldn’t hear me, thus the repetition! Oh yeah, the alcohol probably had a little to do with it, too).

MILF looks at me weird.

I manage to partially recover. A few minutes later her friend gets her attention and they walk away. She doesn’t look back.

Damnit.

Two girls stroll by. I forgot what I opened them with but they are both attentive from the get-go. The slightly cuter one gets asked to dance by some guy.

I remember telling her she was tiny. She responds well and I use that to get her giggly. I ask her things like, “When you go to a restaurant do you get a booster seat or climb up into a big people chair?”

She is giggling hardcore so I tell her I like girls who laugh at my jokes.

She says no one has ever said stuff like that to her before.

Strawberry fields.

She number closes me as we are being kicked out of the bar.

HB: Sooo… are you going to call me?

CJ: We’re here together right now. Drive me to my car.

She drives me over and we make out for quite a bit.

The cops actually shine flashlights on us through the window and tell us to leave.

CJ: “That sucks, I’m still having fun. Come to my place. I don’t have alcohol but I have water, Coke Zero or tea.”

She follows me. I put on “knocked up” dvd and escalate on the couch.

Seems too easy, doesn’t it? It is that easy sometimes. Knowing where she is at in the interaction is one of the things that separates the advanced PUA from the intermediate. The Intermediate would’ve set the Timebridge and then pushed too hard or too soft to get a bounce. He would’ve wasted time and put sexual vibe in jeopardy by withdrawing sexual intention while running comfort.

The problem with most people’s calibration skills is that they are calibrating to the wrong thing. You don’t calibrate to attraction or whether or not she likes you or whether or not she is paying attention. You calibrate to whether or not she becomes more engaged when you are sending sexual communication.

If you are aware of where she is then it becomes easy to just gently lead, baby-steps along a gradual incline.

Captain Jack

Force21 -

Crack the Back of Your Most Persistent Sticking Points, Go to A Level Never Seen Before...

 

I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. Force*21
2. Lay Report: Good Girl Face
3. Lay Report: Ass Parade

What if you are not as good as Sinn or El Topo (yet!) and you DID NOT get a Same Night Lay?

Well, now it’s time for some Brutal Honesty. Use this checklist to hold your ass to the fire. This is the time to be honest and real about your effort level and whether or not you have your shit together.

“When performance is measured, performance improves. When performance
is measured and reported back, the rate of improvement accelerates.” – Thomas Monson

Use a checklist to help you measure your work rate.

1. How many sets did I open? (If it’s less than 3 per hour then you MUST increase your work rate)

2. Of those sets, how many did I open with the INTENTION of taking it as far as I could?

3. When something didn’t go as I planned, did I take it the wrong way?

4. Did I latch on to conversational threads that didn’t serve me?

5. Did I leave before attempting a TimeBridge?

6. Of the TimeBridge’s I attempted, how many times did I meekly put it out there instead of really making an effort to pull her out of the current time/place and into the future with me?

7. Did I make it clear to her friends who I was gaming?

8. Did I tell them I liked her and thought she was cool?

9. Did I ever get out of my head and attempt a REAL connection with the woman in front of me?

10. Did I set sexual frames and show that I valued her sexuality as well as my own?

11. Did I show her I was interested in making something happen very soon?

12. Did I tell her I liked her (lips/hair/certain mannerism/smell)? Did I tell her I thought she was sexy?

13. How many times did I attempt the Bounce?

14. Did I attempt a kiss close?

15. Did she give me any openings (conversationally) that I missed? Like a compliment? Or, a hint that she was open for something happening?

16. Did I miss her qualifying herself before I even tried to qualify her?

17. Did I “drunk-n-lonely” text about 10 minutes after close?

What is measured improves.

Captain Jack

P.S. I’m starting the “Master Strategies Monthly Teleseminar” soon… details below.

Force21 -

Crack the Back of Your Most Persistent Sticking Points, Go to A Level Never Seen Before...

 

I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. Force*21
2. Attract Women: Gun to the Head Gaming
3. Creation of Pick-up Ability Part 2

Imagine this: You are sitting on your couch eating Bon-Bons with your eyes laser locked on Oprah when you hear a crack, the door flies open and 3 goons rush towards you.

You hurl your bon-bons at the goons but it doesn’t even faze them.

Next thing you know there is a gun pointed at your temple and one of them says, “Is this the guy?” The other looks at a photograph and says, “He’s not wearing the feather boa, jade necklace and high heels like in his MySpace profile but yeah, I’d say it is him.”

One of them says, “Look, Mr. Pua guy, you go out tonight and have sex with a girl or we’re going to shoot you in the face.”

Gun to the head. Shot in the face.

Do you go out and do the same thing you always do?

Do you do a few laps around the bar, have a few drinks, hover a few times, look for the perfect opening?

Not unless you enjoy face shootings.

What WOULD you do differently?

Here’s what I’d do…

1. Dress like almost everyone else  but a tad better.

2. Get to the bar early. I want to get there about 10-15 minutes before the crowd does. I want to chat with the bartender a minute, chat with a waitress or two for a minute before they get ridiculously busy. Get the ol’ mouth movin’ a bit.

3. Approach as soon as possible. Even if it is “How’s it going?”

4. Watch the girls who have wandering eyes. They are looking for something.

5. Approach the girls who make eye contact.

6. Never leave a set until a few minutes after I’ve TimeBridged.

7. Set the sexual frames early.

8. Ask her “What’s on the agenda for later?”

This one needs some explaining. A lot of PUAs think this is about Logistics. It isn’t. In fact, Logistics aren’t nearly as important as everyone believes. Shocking? Not really.

Imagine this… you have plans to go bowling tonight. It’s Tuesday, you almost always go bowling on Tuesdays. One of your buddies calls you up and says,

Buddy: “What’s going on man?”

You: “Not much, just going to go bowling later, have a few beers, see if I can top my Galaga score.”

Buddy: “Sounds cool. Well, would you like to get together and sew a little bit… maybe share our feelings and shit?”

You: “Umm… Well… I always bowl on Tuesdays… kinda my normal thing and uh…”

But, what if Buddy called you up and said, “Dude… These concert tickets just fell into my lap and blah, blah, blah…”

Do you think that’d change things a bit?

Logistics matter LESS and LESS the more interested and turned on she is… I used to let logistics derail me. Now, I hardly even pay attention.

Can they fuck you up? Sure. They used to fuck me up all the time. Then, I discovered “Drunk-n-Lonely Texting.”

Focus on getting her to really, really see you as a liberator of her sexual frustrations and SHE will handle the logistics for you.

The purpose of the question is to establish in her mind that you have probably sexual intent AND you are seeking a way to create an opportunity.

9. After you have 3 or 4 TimeBridge’s set up, focus on the one who seems like your best shot. This is always a little bit of a crap shoot BUT your Intuition will grow with time.

10. Tell her she is sexy and that her mannerisms are driving you crazy. Use a Bounce statement about 30 minute prior to close.

11. If she doesn’t take the Bounce invitation, walk her to the car. Get in and say you are going to talk to her a bit. Make out with her.

12. Tell her you are not sure you can drive home and ask her if she would mind, “It’s just right down the street.” (I’ve used this a billion times for venues that are 30-45 minutes away! Haa!)

12b. As she is driving mass text the other girls and say, “Hey sexy” – just in case this one does leave you after dropping you off. This will increase the possibility of another honey coming over thus DECREASING the chance of you getting shot in the face.

13. As she’s driving begin using one or two word commands interspersed with normal conversation. “Turn here.” “Go left.” when you get to your place say, “Park here.” I like to use stop signs and stop lights as a chance to make out.

14. “Come in and get some water before you head back.”

15. Get her some water, tell her where the bathroom is… while she’s in the bathroom put on a DVD. I like “Wedding Crashers” or, “South Park: The Return of the Fellowship of the King to the Two Towers” because it is sexual in nature and hilariously funny.

16. Have her sit down on your coach. Make small talk 3-5 minutes. Kiss her again.

17. Begin escalating heavy.

18. Push her away and tell her she is naughty for doing this to you.

19. Escalate more. Spank her. Tell her she is bad. Ask her what she is doing to you.

20. Make sweet love.

Send her on her way, “And… try not to think about me constantly” as you pull her hair and kiss her deeply again.

Go into your closet and get your Flame Thrower. Wait for the knock on the door. When the Goons rush in, fling your used condom at them and then use the Flame Thrower to set them all on fire. This should make your point in a fairly dramatic way.

Captain Jack

P.S. I thought about using the Grenade Launcher instead of the Flame Thrower. But, I felt like Grenade Launcher was a little too obvious. I feel Flame Thrower gives that extra little bit of twist.

Force21 -

Crack the Back of Your Most Persistent Sticking Points, Go to A Level Never Seen Before...

 

I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. Gun to the Head: Charred Remains Checklist
2. Force*21
3. Lay Report: Seducing Two Women Back to Back SNLs and a 3some?

We spent a lot of time reminiscing about girls we made sweet love to, 2-sets that we cold-approached and handled like seduction Ninjas, sets that blew up in ridiculous ways. Nights of drunken Tomfoolery in distant cities and so forth.

The biggest injustice during this whole time period was that we didn’t have a third party chronicling these adventures. That sucks.

I remember one night Sinn opened this absolutely hot brunette girl with big knockers and her cute enough little friend.

Now, at this time there was ALSO a girl I had number closed a few days earlier who was at the bar. Sort of a dilemna because I need to wing. There’s a lot of shit to keep track of… I need to wing but do it in a way I don’t fuck up my lay with the Wisconsin girl. On the flip side, I can’t torpedo this 2set and fuck up Sinn’s chances with the hottie.

At one point, Sinn and his hottie have wondered off a bit and I’m actually talking to BOTH the girls (the obstacle and my previous number closee).

I look across the bar and Sinn’s Hottie has this concerned look on her face. I look at Sinn and he just doesn’t look right. He is wavering a bit and twitches awkwardly every 10-15 seconds.

I’m thinking, “Oh shit, what’s happening? Somebody has spiked his drink and it’s fucking with his nervous system.” I get a little scared, put my beer down and begin to walk over.

“Stay calm, get him some water, see what he is feeling,” I tell myself in an effort to calm my nerves. I have visions of my friend being put in an ambulance and driven to a hospital with IVs and shit stuck in his arm.

I’m pushing my way through the mass of people and as I’m about half way there, he dips his right shoulder and then snaps his fingers. Hmm, that’s weird. Maybe he’s trying to play it off. I take a few more steps and he then dips his left shoulder and snaps his fingers again.

Then, it hits me…

Sinn isn’t having an adverse drug reaction or suffering
from a rare spinal cord disorder. He’s Dancing!!!

Can you imagine my relief?

Then, I started to chuckle. Everything was going to be alright. That night we pulled the two-set and laid them. A few days later I got the Wisconsin girl. (LR: The Acrobatic Monkey and LR:www-horny-wisconsin-girls-com).

Now, you probably think this post is ONLY about me reminiscing about our adventures and making fun of one of my friends, don’t you?

You don’t think dear Ol’ Captain Jack is going to be able to pull a nice pick-up lesson out of this little story do you?

O Ye of Little Faith!

When I thought Sinn was suffering from a Neurotransmitter Deficiency on the dance floor and I was walking towards him, what types of behaviors, scenarios and possibilities was I thinking about?

• Getting him some water
• Calling an ambulance
• Getting him to sit down and asking about his experience so I could later relate it to the Paramedics
• Picturing Him in the hospital with IVs and such
• Collecting his drink for lab analysis and the fingerprints of the Perp

But, once it hit me that he was “dancing,” what types of behaviors, scenarios and possibilities was I imagining then?

• Pointing and laughing
• Challenging him to a dance-off to boost my club cred
• Taking video for future black-mail possibilities
• Pretending like I didn’t know him and quietly exiting the back way with the Wisconsin girl
• Teasing him mercilessly to make myself feel better

Aren’t those all VASTLY different from the previous?

Let’s bring this home…

Let’s imagine a common pick-up artist talking to a hottie. (Not any of my readers, of course.) He’s talking to the hottie who has herself all dolled up complete with mini-skirt and push-up bra and he’s telling her all these stories that demonstrate he has high value and that he’s a social guy, blah, blah, blah…

In other words, he’s royally boring the shit out of her.

But, let’s say he stumbled on “The Greatest Pick-up Blog On the Entire Internet”* and he picked up a little sumpthin’-sumpthin’ about Framing and in the midst of utterly boring her he lobs this gem into the convo,

“So, what’s on the Agenda for later?”

Simple question, right?

NO!!! Not at all, my fellow pirate**.

That question is MAGIC!

(I wish I could take credit for it but I learned it from Brent of Absolute Power Dating.)

Why is it Magic? Because, NOW you’ve alluded to the possibility of seeing her LATER… she is pretty likely to assume you are leading towards something like an after-party or you and her doing something later at night, when the club is closed… And, if we’re honest with ourselves, we all know what happens when the club closes, don’t we?

Boys and Girls Do Naughty Things to Each Other in Private!

Which is something she could be interested in.

That question makes her reframe all the other shit you said previously as having Probable Sexual Intent!!!

Now, what behaviors, scenarios and possibilities are opening up in HER mind?!

Do you get it? Do you see it!

Fuck man, if you don’t see it I think you should consider the priesthood or something.

Whatever.

Love,
The One and Only Captain Jack

* The Blog you are now reading
** “Pirate” in the sense of someone who enjoys adventures, tasty alcoholic beverages, gold and wenches. Not one who steals shit.

P.S. Would you like to hear more of my thoughts and ideas on Game? There is only so much I can do in writing. Especially in a blog because it is difficult to really flesh out, develop and expound ideas in such a small space. But, with an hour of talking or 8-12 pages of writing I could do A LOT.

Here’s the plan… I am going to do a monthly conference call. Each call will last 90 minutes. The first sixty of those minutes will be me discussing, dissecting and really fleshing out how you can make this whole Gaming thing easier, funner and more effective. It’s pretty safe to say that no one has the same perspective and ideas about this stuff as I do.

The last 30 minutes of the call I’ll answer questions and berate people for not getting it (just kidding about the berating).

I’ve thought about charging monthly for this but I’ve decided not to. It’s a one-time payment for the full year. That’s 12 calls for a total of 18 hours. The price I’ve settled on makes the cost $16.39 per hour. That comes out to $295.00 for the year.

The calls will be recorded and transcribed in case you miss them, or you’re in Europe, Asia or Africa where the calls will likely be at an inconvenient time.

You can sign up by pushing the button below.

A few days after you sign up I’ll send you the schedule. You’ll have 30 days AFTER the first call to decide if you want to keep going. If not, then I’ll send you a refund. No questions asked, no big deal.

P.P.S. I took a few liberties with this post for educational purposes… Sinn was actually dancing with the girl because I told her that he loved to dance with girls but was too shy to ask. As she dragged him to the dance floor, he flipped me off.

Force21 -

Crack the Back of Your Most Persistent Sticking Points, Go to A Level Never Seen Before...

 

I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. A Key Under Utilized Frame
2. Lay Report: Seducing Two Women Back to Back SNLs and a 3some?
3. Lay Report: Dumpster Diving

Go have a look, there are 19 comments (including one from Yours Truly). Read it and comment to throw your 2 cents in!

Women and Their Fantasies

Captain Jack

P.S. The Refer-A-PUA contest is heating up! The Leader currently has 8 referrals… Go to Refer-A-PUA to get in the game!

Force21 -

Crack the Back of Your Most Persistent Sticking Points, Go to A Level Never Seen Before...

 

I have created a program to help you crack the back of your most persistent sticking points. It is called Force*21 and it has the potential to spring you to the next level in a mere 21 days.

Force*21 Is not a bunch of theory. It is not a bunch of rehashed techniques. It is the application of my newest technology to YOUR Game with me as a guide.

It will crack the back of your most persistent sticking points and spring you to the next level.

I want you to have my new technology.

I want you to get to this level, too.

>>> Click Here to Learn More About Captain Jack's FORCE21 Program <<<

Related posts:

1. Force*21
2. Creation of Pick-up Ability Part 2
3. Text Message: I’m starting to forget what you look like…