Ability Creation in Pick-up
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In my quest to get you guys running even more smoothly (and me too) I’ve been focusing on a research track that started with Master Strategies and was boosted in Force21.
My question has always been… “How do I make this as smooth and effortless as possible?” Things that are understood and that people achieve mastery of usually turn out to be fairly simple. A sure sign of NOT understanding is complexity.
Extra complexity is your number one enemy in pick-up (Reactionism is a type of extra complexity).
It doesn’t get much simpler than Sexual Framing or its parent, Game Dynamics.
The more extra steps or unnecessary things you do in a pick-up the MORE likely you are going to do something to trigger something NOT related to the goal. In terms of Game Dynamics we could say, the more unnecessary steps or data you put out there the more likely you will confuse her on one of the Game Dynamics.
Confusion doesn’t lend itself to the successful playing of a Game. (In fact, in a Game one of the best weapons of a Defense is to create confusion for the Offense. But, don’t forget that in Game Dynamics, the girl is NOT the opponent, she is the teammate.)
When someone is unsure of what game is being played, who is playing, who are the teammates, what the obstacles are and what the goal is the more frustrated they get until they leave the game altogether (the more persistent types will attempt to clarify any and all of the above and stick around only as long as they believe they are making progress).
Now, where does extra complexity come from?
1. Not knowing what Game is being played.
2. Not knowing who are the opponents
3. Confusing opponents with teammates
4. Not knowing who are the teammates
5. Not knowing what are the obstacles
6. Not knowing what the Goal is
7. Not knowing when you’ve met the goal
8. Not having the techniques to play the game
9. Having wrong conclusions about:
- the Game,
- the teammates,
- the opponents,
- the obstacles,
- the goal,
- the techniques
- and your self
10. Not knowing WHERE you are on the field of play
(there are more but I’m going to shift gears here to get some more important data across)
As you can see, there is a LOT of ‘not knowing’ on that list. The principle form of not knowing manifests itself in WRONG DATA and WRONG CONCLUSIONS.
So, one of the very first goals of creating truly world-class puas would consist of a method to strip wrong data and wrong conclusions from them. Sometimes this would happen just by receiving the CORRECT data. But, that is an inexact method.
It would have to go even deeper. You’d have to have a way to FIND and BLOW out the wrong data BEFORE the right data could go in and stay in.
To show you how bad wrong data and wrong conclusions are in pick-up I will show how a PUA who KNOWS every technique and style of pick-up can royally fuck things up.
Here’s how:
1. Time: The pua executes the technique to long AFTER the last waypoint or too soon after the last waypoint.
2. Omission: Since the PUA has wrong conclusions he mentally omits right data important for the technique. (Pua talks about the importance of loyalty to a girl with a boyfriend, thus making her feel more guilty for considering having sex with him).
3. Wrong order: Much like #1, the PUA makes a move in the wrong sequence.
4. Injection of Unnecessary Data: This is throwing out data about yourself or your beliefs or past that she could use to consider you to NOT be a Player in the Game or a Player for the Game she wants to play.
5. Wrong Amounts: An example of this is a PUA who just keeps on Clarifying a dynamic that is already passed. Or, for those using the older models, a PUA who keeps pumping buying temperature even though the girl is already attracted.
So, here’s what I want you to get…
The actual format of any sexual Game you want to play, from Same Night Lay all the way to happily married to a woman you really love, is already inherently possible for you.
What is wrong is not having the right data as most believe… it is most likely EXTRA bullshit: bad data and conclusions, leading to bad execution of technique. The techniques of any sexual Game can be learned and mastered in a few months. What makes it takes years is the continual injection of bad data into the execution.
A first step then would be to strip all bad data and conclusions.
Let me talk a little about conclusions. A conclusions is a decision based on the past about how you are going to think, feel or be in the future.
The problem is: all of your conclusions regarding women and your relationship to them were created when you didn’t know shit about women.
Thus, getting rid of all previous conclusions can ONLY help. Some of this happens when you get better data and better experience. However, conclusions have a way of making you interpret your experience to conform to them. It’s a self-reinforcing loop.
The more deep-seated they are the harder they are to discover and get rid of AND the more likely they are to produce HUGE gains in your ability. I won’t go too much on that here as there are a few ways to get rid of conclusions already released in MSM.
But, I will tell you this, which has NOT been yet released anywhere.
At anytime in the past when you’ve LOST something you’ve made a conclusion to either care less about that thing and disregard it OR to care more about it and thus hold on tighter to it. Either of those is NOT great in dealing with women.
So, a very simple exercise you can do is this:
Recall a time when a woman you desired came closer to you.
Recall a time when a woman you didn’t care for went further way from you.
Do this as many times as possible and get more and more mental perceptions involved each time you recall it.
Do it and tell me what happens in the comments.
Captain Jack
P.S. In a few days I’m going to post a special “Completion Bonus” discount for all the people who have some of my material but not all of it. I’d like everyone serious about pick-up and reading my blog to have everything so they can reach a full understanding and get more success with women. Listening to the materials WILL blow tons of false data out of your head and thus make your technique much, much better in field. PUAs often report that pick-up becomes a lot easier and enjoyable when they have this information.
P.P.S. I am putting on plans for a seminar for a small group, less than 10. It will be totally different than anything you’ve ever experienced, almost definitely including topless models for use in drills. Having all of my materials will be a requirement for attending.
P.S. #3 — Sorry for the length. I usually like to edit and pare down to keep it about half the length but I had to make sure to cover the bases in one post instead of 2.
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As always excellent post with deep, and never exposed before, realizations about the game.
Now I only have three questions regarding what you explain:
1) What are all the opponents of the game?
2) One of my conclusion is that “SHB10″ only go for long-term relationships game dynamics. What do you think?
3) When you talk about not having the techniques to play the game, what this includes? Because in my opinion there are not needed techniques to create sexual attraction. It’s only about knowing what you teach, not about a push-pull.
Thankk you very much!! Please don’t stop sharing this kind of information.
We miss you all this time.. No doubt that you are the leader of SNLs!
CJ,
First of all, thanks for the post. It made me realized that my past failures are mostly because of my unclarity in communication (in this terms means the Game Dynamics)
With that said, personal experiences from using the Sexual Framing method evoked some questions about spontaneity and personality in the game.
Looking specifically at point #2, it finally made sense that my unsuccessful pick up in the past was because I put contradicting frames rather than clear and understandable frames for the girl.
For example: I tell a girl that I’m a sexually open minded man but later in the interaction when she told me that she has never been with a guy before (which means she’s a total virgin), I told her that I liked it and that I prefer “good girls” more than “bad girls” (good girls in my mind were girls who are virgins or girls who put a lot of ASDs, even they want to have sex so bad that it frustrates them). Bad girls are the complete opposite. (who enjoys sex as much as they enjoy their lunch break)
With the example above, you can predict what’d happen in the future. You’re right.. She left me. Damn she was cute…
I’ve tried your sexual framing method for a while and got at least 3 women who’s totally into me, just in 1 MONTH (as opposed to 0 in 3 months). This is totally new for me as I’ve never had such experience in my entire life (yes, even after knowing and practicing the game). I can’t even believe that this is possible!
With that said though, there’s one problem that surfaced because of it.
Here’s it:
My head is full of bad data (though your method blew about 3/4 of it already) and I’m starting to get different and BETTER results than what I’ve always got before. I should say that I like it at first, but when I keep gaming with your method, some of the beliefs and mindsets of the method changed my personality. The core of sexual framing is to make the sex happen ASAP and as effortless as possible, but how if fast sex isn’t what I’m after? What if I’m actually a person who prefer to enjoy personal connection and going through a day2 before I sleep with the girl? Would Sexual Framing still works the way as it meant to be? (creating attraction through sexual understanding and liberation).
Game should be fun and congruent with your personality, right? These new mindsets are torturing my personality as much as they blew my mind.
There must be a way out of this, and I know if there’s one guy who knows the answer, it would be YOU.
Thanks for reading sir, and sorry for the length.
Your biggest fan,
Steven, Bali, ID
P.S: please delete my previous comment, too much misspellings and grammar error, thus make the comment unclear and have distorted meanings.
IMO it is very simple, Steven. I fyou play a different game then SNL, the rules change.
Let’s say you play the Day 2 Game (which I’ve just made up).
So what do you do?
Well, this would be my solution. When you first speak to her you create your own frame, which is the ”i’d like to have a personal connection first before sex can happen”.
You can still do SF (eg. Strawberry Fields), but you adjust the routines according to your Ideal Scene (which is building a connection on Day1 and on the Day2, and then having sex).
I’d go even further saying that the core of SF isn’t making sex happen ASAP, but it’s liberating her sexual being and letting her know you approve that part of her.
You can still do that, but you’ve also got to make it clear that you’re not the guy to have sex on the first day.
Hope this makes sense. Although CJ will have a much better answer for this I reckon.
I did the exercise CJ.
(I interpreted ‘closer’ and ‘further away’ as physical and emotional distance between the girl and me).
Recall a time when a woman you desired came closer to you.
- I’d get nervous
- I’d start to think of shit to say
- I’d come up with obstacles that might prevent us from hooking up (and solutions to clear those)
- I look at her, revalidate her hotness and thus creating an even bigger want.
- I’d imagine how awesome it would be to have sex with her.
Recall a time when a woman you didn’t care for went further way from you.
- I’d simply don’t care if I don’t care for her. It wouldn’t affect me emotionally (which mean I’m the Cause!).
- If she clearly shows she’s repelled by me, I’d might create a slightly bigger want, because I want to make good impressions on people.
I’d like to post my conclusions on this exercise here, but I might give away too much of the Force 21 stuff.
Tommy Dean summed it up really well. I run CJ’s gameplan in every set (the sexual framing stuff) and have found that even if I don’t pull her that night, I actually have quite a decent Day 2 ratio.
CJ said in one post that seduction is all about ‘attaching her raging sexual desire to you’. So if you put all the sexual frames in place, she feels sexually free and comfortable around you.
You can then plan a Day 2 rather than closing her that night if you wish. She still sees you as a guy that ‘gets it’. Of course, there is just the natural and unavoidable risk that she may not meet up with you again.
But the act of sexualising it from the beginning, by sexually framing, is to clarify the game you are playing. So, if she wants to meet up with you again, she knows it is a ‘romantic’ context, so there are no mixed signals.