Approaching Women Direct With The Game Dynamics

Posted at September 14, 2009

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In response to one of my blog posts on “Approaching and Seducing Women with Game Dynamics” a commenter had this question which was enthusiastically echoed by another reader. Here are the comments:

Owen said: I have a question about the last article. Considering game dynamics (best way of getting laid and connecting with women) it’s not better to go direct and clarify your intention? I mean the rest is all done by passive acceptance of the frame or I am wrong?

Jim said:

Great question! Doesn’t going Direct make it clear to her that you are a Player? Anxiously awaiting CJ’s response

To clarify the Game Dynamics are:

All Games are Based on Agreement.

Game Dynamic 1: You and her must agree you are both Players in a Game you both want to play.

Game Dynamic 2: You and her must agree you are both playing the same Game TOGETHER.

Game Dynamic 3: You must show her that you VALUE her Game Goal.

Game Dynamic 4: You must demonstrate that you can carry her through the Obstacles… first by handling them in her mind, then in the immediate environment then over time.

So, you have to get agreement on all 4 Dynamics and KEEP agreement until you can actually achieve the Game Goal.

I have nothing against Direct Approach to meet women… Direct works. I’ve used it and I’ve seen others use it for great effect. However, I don’t think it is an optimum move. You want your opening move to be the one that gives you the highest probabilities of getting to the next stage.

In some cases, direct has such an effect that it blows past all the stages. If you couple this with the fact that women DO love sex and are sometimes just ready to go at it then you get some success.

The problem is I think it lowers your overall probabilities.

Let’s look at it from a Game Dynamics viewpoint with my last lay report.

Here was a girl who was obviously down… But… she was there with her ex-boyfriend (who still wanted her) and a ‘big brother’-type guy friend. (Now don’t we know that almost all ‘big brother’ types are basically guys who still want to have sex with her but don’t know how to make it happen?)

She and I had exchanged hard eye contact and smiles several times. Would’ve been fairly easy for me to Direct Approach. But, it would’ve blown out Dynamic 4 and ended my chances. Now, I don’t agree with Mys’ idea that everyone else in the set is an Obstacle but in this case they were definitely Obstacles because we had Counter Intentions. An Obstacle is defined by Counter Intentions not by simply NOT being your Target. I’ve had non-Targets be ALLIES in set.

I’ve also had circumstances where I have opened 2sets and discovered the Target was out with her boyfriend’s sister. How would Direct fare, then? Of course, you could decide, “Well, it would save me time!” Perhaps, if you’re not good or you have no intention of getting Supremely Good at Game. But, history shows that a Boyfriend is often a trifling matter!

The Game Strategist opts for Low Investment Openers, indirect approaches to meet women or the social type openers like, “How’s everyone tonight?” and discovering what’s deal. He picks his optimum move at every step… and she loves him for it.

So, my conclusion is: Sure you might be passing Dynamic 1 with flying colors by going Direct but could be destroying any chance/opportunity of getting agreement on any other Dynamic by destroying Dynamic 4. You COULD also be violating a few Game Rules (like “Protect Social Reputation”) depending on what Game is her natural preference.

Captain Jack

P.S. The Game Dynamics audio has been recorded and is being delivered along with all the past “Master Strategies Monthly” audios. You can read more at “How to Pick Up Girls Using The Game Dynamics”

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