What he's saying is that kino probably isn't …
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what he's saying is that kino probably isn't effective if her mind isn't into it.
thus implicating that when a woman doesn't think she want's you it's useless to try to arouse her with touching.
I think that's true when she's sure she's not attracted to you.
But, when she's neutral it could probably convince her that she does want you, and when she allready knows she wants you it will only progress the pickup.
since, amongst other things, it shows her that you like her and it makes her feel good.
Therefore, I think that it's best to use a combination of words and touching to arouse her.
In addition, other pua's have said that the routines are just used to distract her logical mind while physically escalating.
So, since you say that you don't use a lot of kino to arouse her, would you please share your thoughts about this CJ?
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that's the problem with alcohol, the first few drinks will get you more talkative and in social mode, but if you continue drinking after that and get drunk you'll be less able to focuss and thus less able to say the right things at the right time.still amazed by your success though! especially that you can get the girls to come over later on the same night.
you also swiftly demonstrate the power of momentum when playing the game. thus, the more momentum you built with attracting women, the easier it gets to get the next one.
you make it look easy dude!
which it can and should be. - Lay Report: Seducing Two Women Back to Back SNLs and a 3some?
Damn CJ you let alcohol come in between you and a snl 3some.
Imagine how well you would do if you would stay sober or just get tipsy. - “I met your twin last night.”
“because the women are irritated about Fri/Sat night not working out for them.”this is such a great frame to have.
look at yourself as her sexual savior that comes to free her from all the annoying chumps that don't know how to turn her on and make her long for your lovin'. - 3 in the Works…
So it would have been pretty rude for her to start making out with you as soon as her friend went to take a piss.I have noticed a simular thing when I tried to kiss girls for the first time when dropping them off at their parents' place or at work.
Especially when it is your first date with her, the people around her will know this and she's probably affraid that it will make her look easy. - 3 in the Works…
“She did, however, reject my kiss close. She said, “We hardly know each other” or “We just met.” — not sure what that was about so it makes me wonder.”I think she just didn't want her friend to catch you two kissing, so she made up an excuse.
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nice insights, one comment tough, i think you are confusing kino with creepy purposeless touching. Physicality is more about leading, look at salsa dance and tango for example. The guy Leads the girl he makes her abandon herself in the moment . women fantasize about a leading dominant man, they line up just to dance with him if he's a good dancer. The “elbow touching man” is just creepy and indecisive, leading is a form of dance and is a sexual frame in itself.
my 2cents.
Oh yeah, if you go to salsa clubs people hookup A Lot in there and its not by chance girls feel more free and less juged, cause she can just say she was being lead by a guy, she isn't responsible. Girls access their freaky side when their is no judgement.
CJ
could you tell us more about the kino not being the main thing?
what he's saying is that kino probably isn't effective if her mind isn't into it.
thus implicating that when a woman doesn't think she want's you it's useless to try to arouse her with touching.
I think that's true when she's sure she's not attracted to you.
But, when she's neutral it could probably convince her that she does want you, and when she allready knows she wants you it will only progress the pickup.
since, amongst other things, it shows her that you like her and it makes her feel good.
Therefore, I think that it's best to use a combination of words and touching to arouse her.
In addition, other pua's have said that the routines are just used to distract her logical mind while physically escalating.
So, since you say that you don't use a lot of kino to arouse her, would you please share your thoughts about this CJ?
Awesome shit man. I finally realize what living I'm your own reality after this weekend and I can only describe it as a shift. It's powerful. If you truly understand this it is all you need! And these quotes I'm going to apply to my social interactions and see what happens, I'll let ya know.
You'll like this one:
“The human spirit is prey to the most astounding impulses. Man goes constantly in fear of himself. His erotic urges terrify him. The saint turns from the voluptuary in alarm; she does not know that his unacknowledgeable passions are her own are really one.” (Goerges Bataille, 1957)
Okay, so I realized “Women react much more negatively to negative messages than do men.” is prolly the biggest one. That REALLY clicked for me this weekend. I thought about all the “negative” times with women or whenever I would think negatively with them how they would react to me and realized it was never good and it would always leave a sour taste in my mouth. (Just a feeling more of I was losing some connection with the girl). This goes for even “negging” or being C/F, or trying to be a dick to get attention… it doesn't work, all you have to do is … (I guess even what I do is called “reframing”), misinterpret things sexual, almost. But so the girl realizes that it's sexual and not you… but really you do and pretend not to have done that… OMG do I do ninja frames now and not realize it?
Anyway…
I had many interesting interactions but one with a Married woman really sticks out. She had her hands all over me and her husband was completely fine with it, and her flirting with me, because the topic of the conversation was how married couples can still go out and have fun…. (And the married woman “steered” the conversation this way… I did little work) HMMMMM…. All I did was take that idea above…
Thanks CJ! Sweet stuff man.
“I’ll tell you what: Pretty much the same thing. It seemed to make a girl try a bit harder.”
So you're saying if you wanna make her chase you back, you touch her chest then yell “that girl is hot!!!!” while looking at a different girl?
I'm confused.
“I’ll tell you what: Pretty much the same thing. It seemed to make a girl try a bit harder.”
So you're saying if you wanna make her chase you back, you touch her chest then yell “that girl is hot!!!!” while looking at a different girl?
I'm confused.