What Would You Do if ‘The Community’ Did Not Exist?

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March 7, 2008

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Tribulus emailed me and a few other PUAs/Friends this email…

I’ve actually been doing this for a few months now… except I’m acknowledging that the Community exists just that it is wrong about everything…

Just for a moment, Imagine….

No community. No help whatsoever aside from Barbara DeAngelis and Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus.

No Gurus, No bootcamps, No seminars, No TV shows, No online forums or DVD’s or CD’s. No RSD, Mystery Method, No Speed Seduction….

All of it….Gone.

Imagine a big dupster in your mind and all that stuff going into the dumpster and then the dumpster fades into nothingness.

What do you do?

You are alone with no help.

You still need to meet a sex partner or a girlfriend or lover. Biological urges are the same. But now its just you and girls.

Take this seriously.

What does your heart tell you to do?

Tell us what you’d do in the comments section below…

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Finesse 1 year ago 1 point
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Good question.

The way I have been taking my "game" lately, or at least been moving it, I haven't focused as much on the community as I used to.

It's funny how something so petty can be such a huge hinderance yet also be good, all at the same time.

If there were no community, I would be out making "friends" with people that enjoy doing the same stuff as I. Making videos/Acting/ photography. Playing paintball an getting on a team. Traveling. Figuring out a way to start a business.

In most ways the community is good, but in the area of progression, unless you've made it your lifes work, and are getting paid to help guys navigate through it, it really is a black hole.

A black hole riped with asshole wanna-be's, mediocrity, and socially stupid people that remind me of crabs most often times.

After all, that is WHY the community exists in the first place.

I am greatful for the community as it has helped me a ton. It has condensed all the information that "gurus" pioneered social dynamics with, and for that its value is great. But some people may be just as well off without the community.

Honestly, if there were no community, I would probably be happier with myself in general, BUT I like helping people more, and it is for that reason I am still in it. I feel I may yet be able to do good.

Very good question.

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Duncan Idaho 1 year ago 1 point
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For physical needs it'd be back to one hand and porn self gratification, or lady of the evening, and the once in a blue moon one night stand with the drunk cougar across the bar. At the age I'm at now, I'd probably be looking at marrying a mail order bride from the Philippines, Taiwan, or Russia. This is my best guess as to what I would have done without the community.

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Christopher 1 year ago 1 point
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Suffer. I always had moderate success with women. But with the community I have met more fun and attractive women. W/o the community I would have that swing down to depression when I couldn't get a women(or dating a women I didn't really care for). THe community has help me realize I could get the women I want in life. It's comforting.

On the flip side I think without the community there are certain people that would push themselves harder to achieve success in other areas of their life. Like get a better job, a nicer car/apartment so that they can get women. Some people.

That sense of comfort, of knowing, is very important. It calms you down in way. You're not frustrated knowing that there are available attractive women out there for the taking. but for certain people,like myself it does make you lazy, in going after other things in your life. I think it has to do with your sex drive being quieted a bit. Idk. But w/o the community I would have been working at some other aspect in my life that would indirectly make women more attracted to me.

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Anonymous 1 year ago 1 point
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The same things that AFCs do today...struggle with asking girls out, pay for dates, compliment right way and hope that will make the girl like me, totally ignore what naturals are doing.

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Eric 1 year ago 1 point
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I'd do what I do now. Go out and dance socially. I discovered salsa and tango before the community, and now that I have "game", it's just been amplified.

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Evolpha 1 year ago 1 point
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This is a very good post. I would just revert back to myself as the "fun goofy guy" who always ends up as the friend.

I also believe at the bars, I would just stand around with my friends and watch the girls walk by instead of stopping them. I also believe I wouldn't have as many female friends as I do now.

You can thank Neil Strauss for breaking the community out. I just hope the community isn't even more "leaked" out.

The thing about the community though, most of my friends say "That shit doesn't work". But, it does.

After finding the community, I have really identified with myself. I know much more about myself then ever before. I am glad my roommate gave me the black book called "The Game".

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Blade 1 year ago 1 point
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I'd try to meet girls through social circle like I used to.

THAT WOULD BE SCARY AS FUCK THOUGH. I'd probably be with some ugly chick and if not I'd want to get married to the chick cute chick im with.

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CraC 1 year ago 1 point
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To go say hi without any thought to the next hot girl i see.

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Michael 1 year ago 1 point
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It wouldn't worry me. Sometimes in the past I think I actually used the seduction 'community' as actually a crutch to not go out and bang some women.

It's all too easy to spend hours reading the latest ramblings of you or Sinn, or TD or get pulled into the drama of that other tool who always hates on RSD.

We're all really naturals anyway, so I'd just go out on an insane rampage, hit up every girl in the club or wherever, probably get blown out a few times but whatever. Then at the same time, at least I wouldn't be so goddamn analytical about every single human interaction I have these days. not necessarily always a bad thing... it's swings and rounsabouts

Or something like that

-Michael

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C 1 year ago 1 point
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I'd probably be a lot better off without knowing about it.

Here is a review of my results: Before 'Game' two girlfriends, 7 then 8(both end horribly) and could make out with smoking hottie on the odd occasion. My tactic: sacrifice friends, whatever, be alpha male at all costs.

On entering 'Community' two kiss closes(both weren't from running game; maybe 20% indirectly at most)

Duration: 2 years

It hasn't been what I hoped for on reading 'The Game' but I have faith.

Good question, yet painful in some circumstances.

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The life antd times of Javier 1 year ago 1 point
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Honestly I had "game". I put up 50 before getting into the community by 21. None of them were over a 7.5

I would still get girls from good looks, but would never approach the nicest girls in the club,street, or where ever she is.

I would never push, be as bold unless I was drunk. I look back at the times before the community and realize I did alot of things I do now without knowing what or how come it was working.

I'd just be a good looking,funny, cool materialistic Fuck. Guess thats not that bad, yet I LOVE who I am now. As a wise man once said

"Thats my word".

~Javier Francios~

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TravisThePUA 1 year ago 1 point
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I would most likely say stupid shit to girls as I can still do sometimes.

I'd worry about a lot of stuff more.

I'd be more caring of what people thought, their opinions and such.

I'd follow what was implied to be the right thing to do instead of what worked or was useful.

I'd answer most questions logically.

I'd be a 'fan' of people or become a 'hater'.

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Obadiah 1 year ago 1 point
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This is very interesting in the fact that there was two questions here and I'm only seeing the answer to one -- What would you do you do w/out the community? My life would be vastly different and most of that difference would be internal. I would have a difficult time telling anyone how much "inner game" things have been resolved for me as a result of the contacts I have made in this world. As far as outer game I'd be running the same old direct AFC game I always had, which worked for me to a degree as I have the good fortune to be a "good looking" guy. Which brings me to the second question --
Thats what my heart tells me to do.

Run direct game. As in "Hey would you like to spend some time with me cause I would like to share my time with you". Which is really what it always comes back to anyway but now I have the ability to leave the other guys who are "lame gaming" in the dust.

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Anonymous 1 year ago 1 point
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My life would be headed down a dead-end path. Others would still be manipulating me through fear, guilt, and shame.

And in my heart of hearts, I am certain it would have ended with a bullet to the head.

The community introduced me to a new way of thinking, and that saved my life. I owe a very large debt to it.

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Crotchy 1 year ago 1 point
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I've thought about this before.
I've tried to picture myself had I not found the community, and I just don't know.

What I gained from the community was more about improving my beliefs in myself than my ability to attract, and have sex with random girls.

Although I was already in the process of trying to learn how to become better with women without the material out there, it did facilitate and expedite my improvements.

But, one thing I would have never learned was how to develope my self-confidence and becoming more Alpha towards myself.

I think I would be struggling and barely keeping my head above water.

And I would not have had the relationships with the beautiful women that I know had it not been for the community.

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zibbolo 1 year ago 1 point
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It would be awesome!

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Rock Star 1 year ago 1 point
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I think that the community has moved beyond it's original intent. I'm an old mASFer and when I rejoined the community after my divorce things were different. I spent a little time in it, you know getting to know some people. I met some really good people like Tribulus and yourself; I also met some real duchebags, it seems that the community is teaching guys to be just like the guys who used to AMOG them...

so I've been out for about 3 weeks now.

* I've enrolled in school.

* I'm dating a suicide girl, who's not just hot but amazing in every sense of the word.

* I'm working out.

* I don't feel like my self worth hangs on the approval of a bunch of guys I don't know.

I do have to thank the community for the valuable information that I got from it...not about picking up girls, about how to be my own man.

So in the end anyone who's thinking about it..take a bootcamp, learn some stuff, but don't make it your life, it will only bring you sorrow.

-Rockstar

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Fidelio 1 year ago 1 point
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First off, I would make a pimento cheese sandwhich (because they're so fucking nasty and that's how I like my sandwhiches) to go with my Voss Viking water.

Then, I'd take a nice hot Summer's Eve Feminine Wash bubble bath where I could loosen up the follices on my ball sac before I shave against the grain.

After drying off and applying lye to my silken sac I would then retire to the comfort of my bedroom aka the The Pantry (They call it the Pantry because that's where you store spaghetti cans and Angry Mushrooms).

Once inside The Pantry, I'd most likely light up some espresso scented candles, hit play on the Kylie Minogue, download something with "extreme" or "fistalicious" in the title and then proceed to beat my cock like it was a prisoner of war.

I'd be doing that or maybe some soduku.

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Anonymous 1 year ago 1 point
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I saw an article the other day, "How to Be a Geek but Get the Girl" that pretty much looked like basic inner game and PUA training wrapped up into a single article. It was so straightforward with all the points, I think it's what I'd have to say would be the "obvious" things to do. I mean, most people know this stuff, but still need someone to lay it out for them and make it simple to understand. I mean, anyone knows that good hygiene and fixing personality quirks would be the first step. For a lot of people, the hard part is leaving the "follower" mentality to becoming a "leader", which I feel is critical to any game.

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Brian 1 year ago 1 point
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I would probably be working hard to make tons of money, thinking that was the answer.

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Vibe 1 year ago 1 point
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If the community wasn't there, I would not have been socially confident.

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p1an0hands 1 year ago 1 point
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I would continue a constant cycle of depression and loneliness. I would also settle for the first girl who would have me.

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Anonymous 1 year ago 1 point
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Same as evolpha...but i am still a fun goofy guy but I have learned to filter my personality through the attraction switches

2 years of studying and applying constantly= 7 girls asking me to prom

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CaptainJack 8 months ago 1 point
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NFM, did you even bother to read the comments of SUCCESS in this thread?

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nfm 8 months ago 1 point
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no i haven't because they're BULLSHIT. for the same reason you edited out my comments, i don't rely on any of the bullshit claims of the Seduction Community.

i know better. i've already banged a ton of chicks so they really can't claim that i'm bitter and don't know anything. guys have already seen me in the field, i've posted LRs blah blah blah.. i know the deal... so i know this is MARKETING for you, not self-help, not some alturistic view.. i don't mean to step on your business toes as i dont' fault anyone for trying to make a living.. but i do fault guys for taking advantage of other naive kids and not telling them the truth about this bullshit business.. this is why my forum was created in the first place. to expose all the bullshit.

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CaptainJack 8 months ago 1 point
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You DO realize you are making an ass out of yourself in front of thousands of unique visitors per month, don't you?

If you are trying to help out, you are going about it the wrong way. Calling people CUNTs and spamming everyone's blog isn't marketing, it's SPAMMING.

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CaptainJack 8 months ago 1 point
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Also, I want you to look around this blog and try to buy something if this is all just marketing and business for me.

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nfm 8 months ago 1 point
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you DO realize that you're making an ass out of yourself in front of the entire world, don't you?

you are trying to "help out" by LYING to people. that isn't helping anyone.

i am helping out by TELLING THE TRUTH about your bullshit. unlike you, my forum is wide open to critical review. that's the difference between you and me. you are a cowardly little bitch like every other PUA scam artist. i am not. i am well able to face the critical scrutiny for what i teach.. and like i keep telling you handjobs, i don't SELL my info therefore you're pretty retarded to talk to me about marketing.. you NEED to market you bullshit. because bullshit only works via LYING.

i don't have to lie which is why i don't need to edit out the truth like you do.

SPAM all you want. see if i care :)

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CaptainJack 8 months ago 1 point
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Ok, so tell me specifically what I am lying about?

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nfm 8 months ago 1 point
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well tell me for starters where my original comment went?.. and why don't you have any negative comments about the community?.. same question to sinn. i posted a valid critique of his new material and guess what. he deleted it. BIG SHOCK. you guys have a history of censoring anything about the community. i don't know about you personally, but when you start off the bat deleting my comment without justification, it pretty much lumps you in with the other bullshit scam artists in the PUA community who aren't out the help guys. they are just out to sell products. and make a buck off of the naive.

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CaptainJack 8 months ago 1 point
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I deleted you because you are incredibly negative. Your comments are
WORTHLESS because they have high negative emotion and ZERO content. Running
around spamming people's blogs with nothing of value gets you deleted. If
you brought up sound points and gave sound reasons why people would listen.
Instead you run around saying "bullshit," "scams", "cunts" and other B.S.

There was not ONE SINGLE piece of content in your post, only emotional
drivel. Having a strong feeling about something doesn't make your point
valid.

You have zero logic skills. Your critiques are absolutely worthless and so
are your comments. You have nothing to offer anyone.

You are now muted, spammer.

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nfm 8 months ago 1 point
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blah blah blah.. just admit you're a SCARED LITTLE PUNK ASS SISSY BITCH just like every other PUA scam artist out there trying to make a buck off of naive guys. you SPAM these guys with your bullshit newsletters and PUA socks and PUA underwear.. what are you going to sell next? PUA tampons? YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.you are a WORTHLESS LOSER with NO GAME. go cry like a SCARED LITTLE BITCH to someone who cares. LOL :)

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Reader Joe 3 months ago 1 point
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I'd do the same thing I did the 3 and a half decades before, when I felt the urge, I'd go looking for females and talk to them until I eventually hooked one --- the pu community may be doing more harm than good in my case, since I never really thought about or worried about picking up a girl before... either my game has gotten worse, or I'm just too old.

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