What Would You Do if ‘The Community’ Did Not Exist?
Tribulus emailed me and a few other PUAs/Friends this email…
I’ve actually been doing this for a few months now… except I’m acknowledging that the Community exists just that it is wrong about everything…
Just for a moment, Imagine….
No community. No help whatsoever aside from Barbara DeAngelis and Men are From Mars, Women are From Venus.
No Gurus, No bootcamps, No seminars, No TV shows, No online forums or DVD’s or CD’s. No RSD, Mystery Method, No Speed Seduction….
All of it….Gone.
Imagine a big dupster in your mind and all that stuff going into the dumpster and then the dumpster fades into nothingness.
What do you do?
You are alone with no help.
You still need to meet a sex partner or a girlfriend or lover. Biological urges are the same. But now its just you and girls.
Take this seriously.
What does your heart tell you to do?
Tell us what you’d do in the comments section below…
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Good question.
The way I have been taking my “game” lately, or at least been moving it, I haven’t focused as much on the community as I used to.
It’s funny how something so petty can be such a huge hinderance yet also be good, all at the same time.
If there were no community, I would be out making “friends” with people that enjoy doing the same stuff as I. Making videos/Acting/ photography. Playing paintball an getting on a team. Traveling. Figuring out a way to start a business.
In most ways the community is good, but in the area of progression, unless you’ve made it your lifes work, and are getting paid to help guys navigate through it, it really is a black hole.
A black hole riped with asshole wanna-be’s, mediocrity, and socially stupid people that remind me of crabs most often times.
After all, that is WHY the community exists in the first place.
I am greatful for the community as it has helped me a ton. It has condensed all the information that “gurus” pioneered social dynamics with, and for that its value is great. But some people may be just as well off without the community.
Honestly, if there were no community, I would probably be happier with myself in general, BUT I like helping people more, and it is for that reason I am still in it. I feel I may yet be able to do good.
Very good question.
For physical needs it’d be back to one hand and porn self gratification, or lady of the evening, and the once in a blue moon one night stand with the drunk cougar across the bar. At the age I’m at now, I’d probably be looking at marrying a mail order bride from the Philippines, Taiwan, or Russia. This is my best guess as to what I would have done without the community.
Suffer. I always had moderate success with women. But with the community I have met more fun and attractive women. W/o the community I would have that swing down to depression when I couldn’t get a women(or dating a women I didn’t really care for). THe community has help me realize I could get the women I want in life. It’s comforting.
On the flip side I think without the community there are certain people that would push themselves harder to achieve success in other areas of their life. Like get a better job, a nicer car/apartment so that they can get women. Some people.
That sense of comfort, of knowing, is very important. It calms you down in way. You’re not frustrated knowing that there are available attractive women out there for the taking. but for certain people,like myself it does make you lazy, in going after other things in your life. I think it has to do with your sex drive being quieted a bit. Idk. But w/o the community I would have been working at some other aspect in my life that would indirectly make women more attracted to me.
The same things that AFCs do today…struggle with asking girls out, pay for dates, compliment right way and hope that will make the girl like me, totally ignore what naturals are doing.
I’d do what I do now. Go out and dance socially. I discovered salsa and tango before the community, and now that I have “game”, it’s just been amplified.
This is a very good post. I would just revert back to myself as the “fun goofy guy” who always ends up as the friend.
I also believe at the bars, I would just stand around with my friends and watch the girls walk by instead of stopping them. I also believe I wouldn’t have as many female friends as I do now.
You can thank Neil Strauss for breaking the community out. I just hope the community isn’t even more “leaked” out.
The thing about the community though, most of my friends say “That shit doesn’t work”. But, it does.
After finding the community, I have really identified with myself. I know much more about myself then ever before. I am glad my roommate gave me the black book called “The Game”.
I’d try to meet girls through social circle like I used to.
THAT WOULD BE SCARY AS FUCK THOUGH. I’d probably be with some ugly chick and if not I’d want to get married to the chick cute chick im with.
To go say hi without any thought to the next hot girl i see.
It wouldn’t worry me. Sometimes in the past I think I actually used the seduction ‘community’ as actually a crutch to not go out and bang some women.
It’s all too easy to spend hours reading the latest ramblings of you or Sinn, or TD or get pulled into the drama of that other tool who always hates on RSD.
We’re all really naturals anyway, so I’d just go out on an insane rampage, hit up every girl in the club or wherever, probably get blown out a few times but whatever. Then at the same time, at least I wouldn’t be so goddamn analytical about every single human interaction I have these days. not necessarily always a bad thing… it’s swings and rounsabouts
Or something like that
-Michael
I’d probably be a lot better off without knowing about it.
Here is a review of my results: Before ‘Game’ two girlfriends, 7 then 8(both end horribly) and could make out with smoking hottie on the odd occasion. My tactic: sacrifice friends, whatever, be alpha male at all costs.
On entering ‘Community’ two kiss closes(both weren’t from running game; maybe 20% indirectly at most)
Duration: 2 years
It hasn’t been what I hoped for on reading ‘The Game’ but I have faith.
Good question, yet painful in some circumstances.
Honestly I had “game”. I put up 50 before getting into the community by 21. None of them were over a 7.5
I would still get girls from good looks, but would never approach the nicest girls in the club,street, or where ever she is.
I would never push, be as bold unless I was drunk. I look back at the times before the community and realize I did alot of things I do now without knowing what or how come it was working.
I’d just be a good looking,funny, cool materialistic Fuck. Guess thats not that bad, yet I LOVE who I am now. As a wise man once said
“Thats my word”.
~Javier Francios~
I would most likely say stupid shit to girls as I can still do sometimes.
I’d worry about a lot of stuff more.
I’d be more caring of what people thought, their opinions and such.
I’d follow what was implied to be the right thing to do instead of what worked or was useful.
I’d answer most questions logically.
I’d be a ‘fan’ of people or become a ‘hater’.
This is very interesting in the fact that there was two questions here and I’m only seeing the answer to one — What would you do you do w/out the community? My life would be vastly different and most of that difference would be internal. I would have a difficult time telling anyone how much “inner game” things have been resolved for me as a result of the contacts I have made in this world. As far as outer game I’d be running the same old direct AFC game I always had, which worked for me to a degree as I have the good fortune to be a “good looking” guy. Which brings me to the second question —
Thats what my heart tells me to do.
Run direct game. As in “Hey would you like to spend some time with me cause I would like to share my time with you”. Which is really what it always comes back to anyway but now I have the ability to leave the other guys who are “lame gaming” in the dust.
My life would be headed down a dead-end path. Others would still be manipulating me through fear, guilt, and shame.
And in my heart of hearts, I am certain it would have ended with a bullet to the head.
The community introduced me to a new way of thinking, and that saved my life. I owe a very large debt to it.
I’ve thought about this before.
I’ve tried to picture myself had I not found the community, and I just don’t know.
What I gained from the community was more about improving my beliefs in myself than my ability to attract, and have sex with random girls.
Although I was already in the process of trying to learn how to become better with women without the material out there, it did facilitate and expedite my improvements.
But, one thing I would have never learned was how to develope my self-confidence and becoming more Alpha towards myself.
I think I would be struggling and barely keeping my head above water.
And I would not have had the relationships with the beautiful women that I know had it not been for the community.
It would be awesome!
I think that the community has moved beyond it’s original intent. I’m an old mASFer and when I rejoined the community after my divorce things were different. I spent a little time in it, you know getting to know some people. I met some really good people like Tribulus and yourself; I also met some real duchebags, it seems that the community is teaching guys to be just like the guys who used to AMOG them…
so I’ve been out for about 3 weeks now.
* I’ve enrolled in school.
* I’m dating a suicide girl, who’s not just hot but amazing in every sense of the word.
* I’m working out.
* I don’t feel like my self worth hangs on the approval of a bunch of guys I don’t know.
I do have to thank the community for the valuable information that I got from it…not about picking up girls, about how to be my own man.
So in the end anyone who’s thinking about it..take a bootcamp, learn some stuff, but don’t make it your life, it will only bring you sorrow.
-Rockstar
First off, I would make a pimento cheese sandwhich (because they’re so fucking nasty and that’s how I like my sandwhiches) to go with my Voss Viking water.
Then, I’d take a nice hot Summer’s Eve Feminine Wash bubble bath where I could loosen up the follices on my ball sac before I shave against the grain.
After drying off and applying lye to my silken sac I would then retire to the comfort of my bedroom aka the The Pantry (They call it the Pantry because that’s where you store spaghetti cans and Angry Mushrooms).
Once inside The Pantry, I’d most likely light up some espresso scented candles, hit play on the Kylie Minogue, download something with “extreme” or “fistalicious” in the title and then proceed to beat my cock like it was a prisoner of war.
I’d be doing that or maybe some soduku.
I saw an article the other day, “How to Be a Geek but Get the Girl” that pretty much looked like basic inner game and PUA training wrapped up into a single article. It was so straightforward with all the points, I think it’s what I’d have to say would be the “obvious” things to do. I mean, most people know this stuff, but still need someone to lay it out for them and make it simple to understand. I mean, anyone knows that good hygiene and fixing personality quirks would be the first step. For a lot of people, the hard part is leaving the “follower” mentality to becoming a “leader”, which I feel is critical to any game.
I would probably be working hard to make tons of money, thinking that was the answer.
If the community wasn’t there, I would not have been socially confident.
I would continue a constant cycle of depression and loneliness. I would also settle for the first girl who would have me.
Same as evolpha…but i am still a fun goofy guy but I have learned to filter my personality through the attraction switches
2 years of studying and applying constantly= 7 girls asking me to prom
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I deleted you because you are incredibly negative. Your comments are
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Instead you run around saying “bullshit,” “scams”, “cunts” and other B.S.
There was not ONE SINGLE piece of content in your post, only emotional
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You have zero logic skills. Your critiques are absolutely worthless and so
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You are now muted, spammer.
I'd do the same thing I did the 3 and a half decades before, when I felt the urge, I'd go looking for females and talk to them until I eventually hooked one — the pu community may be doing more harm than good in my case, since I never really thought about or worried about picking up a girl before… either my game has gotten worse, or I'm just too old.
Just posted my thoughts on this up on my blog.
I think it's quite an interesting subject. Everyone has a different take. Some people would be more in their heads (me) others less. Go over and read it to find out more.
Enjoy.
Just posted my thoughts on this up on my blog.
I think it's quite an interesting subject. Everyone has a different take. Some people would be more in their heads (me) others less. Go over and read it to find out more.
Enjoy.
Just posted my thoughts on this up on my blog.
I think it's quite an interesting subject. Everyone has a different take. Some people would be more in their heads (me) others less. Go over and read it to find out more.
Enjoy.
Just posted my thoughts on this up on my blog.
I think it's quite an interesting subject. Everyone has a different take. Some people would be more in their heads (me) others less. Go over and read it to find out more.
Enjoy.