Fuck Buddy Rules
Down at the bottom of this post are “The Fuck Buddy Rules.” I wrote them on 12-26-2005 on Mystery’s Lounge to help a fellow PUA out who kept having his FB’s try to get him into committed relationships.
I’m posting it because Sinn just wrote something on his blog about Instructor’s getting girlfriends, etc. I agree with him and I think that if guys knew how down girls are with these “non-traditional” type relationships they wouldn’t bother with the tradition bf/gf arrangement.
When you learn the power of the debrief you’ll have girls tell you all about the crazy shit they do. I think female orgasms release an Honesty hormone.
(And, while I have your attention go to Debauchery – Mass Sexual Framing and sign up for info on my new 63 day eCoaching program… video, audio, lessons, feedback, teleconferences… it’s going to be a blast (and it’ll get you laid, too).
Anyways, the post follows:
Hey Guys,Well, I haven’t given A LOT of thought about this so maybe my early observations will help us to start cataloging this information. Maybe we can come up with “FB Rules” (sorta like “Stripper Rules”)…
I have 4 fb’s right now (exhausting)…
FB #1) “LR: Smoove as Butta”
FB #2) “LR: The Right Pinky Finger Means You Are Good at keeping secrets…”
FB #3) “LR: It will NEVER work out between me and HBMexicanaNurse”
FB #4) “FR (sat) and LR (sun): HBKaraoke Sings For CaptainJack”During the Sarge
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Really I just focus on running standard MM game all the way through. I DO rely heavily on “Chick Crack” from Tyler’s old posts.I stay away from anything that would say “Boyfriend Material” or “LTR.”
I was talking to another PUA the other day on the phone and he used a lot of standard stuff that to me goes too deep and says “relationship.”
I prefer my version of “Strawberry Fields” over the CUBE for this reason.
The CUBE seems to go pretty deep and gets into LIFE and RELATIONSHIP issues that I don’t want to get framed in. I suppose if you ran that and then poured on some serious Cocky & Funny you’d balance it out but it seems to be a hard frame to get out of and you’ll often get the boyfriend objection.
Furthermore, even if you DON’T get the BF objection you’ll be subject to her LTR programming which often includes holding out for sex and expecting you to buy her flowers and shit.
I suppose you could turn the CUBE sexual but by it’s nature it seems to be a DEEP “look into her soul” type of game.
I am slanted almost entirely the other way. I run jerk routines, chick crack, strawberry fields, cocky and funny, the Marriage Game all the way up to Qualification.
I tell her I could NEVER take her home to Mommy. I tell her she is a freak. I run Juggler’s GF test (but I NEVER call it the Girlfriend test) and tell her she failed so we can only be friends (in contrast to strawberry fields which always frames her as a sex fiend – no MATTER WHAT I always analyze it the same way).
I look at the standard stories like Spells, Who Lies More, David Bowie simply as ways to get me into the group so I can start obliquely spiking my Target’s BT and priming her for qualification.
And after Qualification I like to go into the Question game and go sexual with that pretty quick. But, that doesn’t always happen (as you can tell from the FR: Cats, Cancer Survivors and Miss America)
I’d say if you don’t full close by the Day2 or Day3 then you are likely headed towards more than an FB…
After the Close
—————So if I had to build some “FB Rules” just based on what I know now, here’s what I’d say:
1) Stay away from “Relationship” talk – if it does come up I C&F my way around and change the subject…
2) Don’t meet with her unless you know you are going to fuck her.
3) Do NOT talk about life plans, or ask her about her family, or plan anything more than a few days in the future… (You CAN do this later AFTER she is an established FB – I waited 3 months)
4) Do NOT call just to chat…
5) Only sms her if you are going to invite her over to fuck (related to #2)
6) Don’t see her on a regular basis. And, DO NOT go out with her on Fri/Sat nights.
7) Try not to meet with her friends. If her girlfriends like you they WILL start putting BF thoughts into her head. I LOST a fine FB Black Girl that way…
I don’t talk about other women and I NEVER ask her about what her and her friends did last weekend. If she asks me I just say, “My friends and I went out and had a blast!”
Right now I have only 6 phone numbers in my phone. 4 of them are the FBs and 2 of them are HBs that I haven’t Day2′ed yet. If I can’t get them out on a Day2 quickly or I get to a Day3 and don’t close I delete them. New chicks are turning 18, getting divorced, breaking up with Bf’s or deciding to have something “on the side” everyday.
Have fun!
– Captain Jack
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Hey CJ,
I’m listening to your webcasts and you mention Japanese production systems… Got any book or magazine/webzine articles you could recommend? Amazon and my local library didn’t have much.
Thnx
thanks for posting this.. big problem i have is that its easy to have a fuck buddy relationship with a girl i’m not really into.. but when i like the girl i tend to fuck it up
Hey CJ,
Thanks for this post. Have your FB rules changed at all since the original post?
Enjoy reading your stuff on FBs and SNLs. Most of your FRs are off night game.
Do you get SNLs and FBs off day game, and if so, do you make any adaptations to your approach?
What’s the best way to get them to leave? I would say mostly I go to her place and then jet,but sometimes you want them to come over so you don’t have to put any effort in.
Anonymous1, I like ‘The Toyota Way’ and ‘The Goal’ both are great books.
bobby rio, that’s actually a pretty common problem. You can probably replay the fuck-ups in your head and compare/contrast so you get a list of do’s, don’ts to start implementing when you really like the girl.
anonymous2, asked ‘have your FB rules changed at all since the original post?’ Sort of. I don’t really have FBs anymore since I would rather be out practicing some experiment OR just relaxing at home. I think now I probably wouldn’t even take them out at all. Probably just be pure dirty sex, haaa…
anonymous3 asked about Day Game… I don’t do Day Game mainly because when I’m out during the day I’m focusing on writing or running errands or reading… if I was going to do Day Game I’d probably just do Direct.
anonymous4, asked how do you get them to leave? I don’t really care either way if they stay the night. It’s the morning that kinda sucks… what I do is say, “Oh shit… I forgot I have to be xyz at certain time.” But, I have a friend who has a lot of FBs and what he does is immediately after sex he gets on his computer and ignores them until they get the picture.
~ CJ ~
LOL at the getting on the computer!